Genealogy Discussion http://www.tngforum.us/index.php Thu, 09 Sep 2010 05:49:49 -0500 10 http://www.tngforum.us/index.php?showtopic=6061 Sat, 14 Aug 2010 16:51:49 -0500 6061 http://www.tngforum.us/index.php?showtopic=5958 www.moonfruit.com to build in online, but then - because it couldn't do some of the things I wanted it to (ie add hyperlinks to text within a table!) I decided to design and build it myself using software called KompoZer.

The Willis Tree Roll of Honour at www.thewillistree.info/roh/index.php

I'd be interested in your comments and suggestions!

It is still a work in progress: I am still researching more details as to where/when those listed were killed; tracing their military service records; gleaning data from relatives; adding links to my TNG site; sourcing background information on regiments, ships, cemeteries, memorials etc.

One of those listed - John Parker - was killed at the Battle of Fromelles in July 1916 and his remains have now been laid to rest in the new Fromelles (Pheasant Wood) Military Cemetery which was officially opened on 19 July this year.

If you are thinking of setting up something similar, I have a list of links to various websites which I have found really useful and am happy to share them with those who are interested.

Thanks]]> Tue, 20 Jul 2010 05:30:44 -0500 5958 http://www.tngforum.us/index.php?showtopic=5947
In the past, results of the long form census have been released after 92 years. Results of the National Household Survey will never be released.

As you all know, accurate Census information is one of the main resources used by genealogists of the world to establish ethnic origins, family makeup, religious affiliation and nationality of ancestors.

Historians are also avid consumers of Census information. Census information is an essential part of the documentation of the history of a country.

Quote from Gordon Watts, The Global Gazette, (http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/gazgw/gazgw-0122.htm )

“The Census is the single most important documented information available to the historical and genealogical communities. It is the only source in which you find information regarding families instead of individuals. Through successive censuses, you can track the formation of the family, you can track when children are born, when children grow up and move away, and you can track patterns of migration. By removing the information contained in the Long Form questionnaire, the government is taking from us the greatest source of information for the history of the country. It is a huge change, one that will have disastrous consequences for future genealogists and historians, and one that genealogists and historians will have to protest.”

Accurate Census information is also invaluable to the Health Care community for understanding demographics in order to adapt health services to regions and populations; to municipal, provincial and federal planners, to make major public policy decisions; to economist and others to make informed policy recommendations; and on and on , …

This has, so far, generated an outcry from many of the groups aforementioned but is under the radar for many. The implications are disastrous and the repercussions everlasting.

Rise up genealogists of Canada, join the ranks, write to your Member of Parliament and write to Industry Minister Tony Clement, use twitter, use Facebook, blog and email. The Harper government has responded in the past to public outcry on controversial matters and your voice counts.

I have included a list of internet links to articles related to this subject for your edification.


Thank you for your support!

Réal Charlebois, amateur genealogist and keen Census consumer

Former Chief Statistician, and Statistical Society of Canada
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingn...h-97514599.html
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politi...article1635031/
General reaction and editorials
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinio...article1635140/ July 11 editorial
http://www.canada.com/technology/Ottawa+re...2273/story.html
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politi...article1630413/ “Why you should care about the sudden demise of the long census form”
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politi...article1623458/
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health...article1632193/
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politi.../?service=email

http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/g.../gazgw-0122.htm
Political
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/07/07/...als-census.html LIBERAL
http://www.liberal.ca/en/newsroom/media-re...ada-in-the-dark ENG LIBERAL
http://www.liberal.ca/fr/newsroom/media-re...ada-in-the-dark FR LIBERAL
http://www.ndp.ca/press/ndp-demands-immedi...ensus-long-form NDP ENG
http://www.npd.ca/article/npd-demande-r-ta...let-recensement NDP FR
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/100708/...census_scrubbed City of Calgary
Business
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/business/...s-97687304.html
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politi...article1632390/
http://www.macleans.ca/article.jsp?content=n3835988
Policy – Research organizations
http://www.policyalternatives.ca/publicati...census-decision (letter to the Minister from Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives)
http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1653/canada-sc...isticians-worry (International)
http://census.pewsocialtrends.org/2010/sho...untary#more-129 (U.S. study shows that similar US move would result in lower response rates, poorer quality data and higher costs).
Genealogists/Historians
http://www.canada.com/technology/Genealogi...7316/story.html
http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/g.../gazgw-0122.htm “Federal Government Destroys Value of Future Census”
Francophone issues
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/100707/...census_scrubbed
http://news.therecord.com/Wire/News_Wire/S.../article/741796
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/br...s-97961859.html
Blogs
http://worthwhile.typepad.com/worthwhile_c...a-bad-idea.html
]]> Fri, 16 Jul 2010 14:16:35 -0500 5947 http://www.tngforum.us/index.php?showtopic=5658
As it happens, I'm researching an unusual name (McKern), so the pool of researchers is relatively small, which means fewer eyes to catch mistakes. Therefore, the same errors are repeated in multiple websites/databases, e.g., most of the Ancestry.com family trees that contain more than a handful of McKerns appear to draw from the same error-filled database. Many of these errors also appear in the data at familysearch.org.

Is my experience unusual, i.e., have others found the LDS website to be a good source of information? Has anyone found that there is more information on the CD regarding original sources than is indicated in on the website?

Thanks for any info,

Bridget






]]> Thu, 06 May 2010 11:55:59 -0500 5658 http://www.tngforum.us/index.php?showtopic=5495
I am researching an ancestor Robert LIDDLE and have hit a brick wall.

WHAT WE KNOW SO FAR...

The first record we have of him is in the 1881 England Census. In 1881 he is 14, he is listed as being born in Manchester and he is residing at The St Joseph's Orphan and Certified Industrial School in Manchester.

The next hit we get is the 1891 England Census. He is now 24 yo has now moved to Kent and has enlisted in the West Kent Regiment as a private.

I have contacted the West kent Regiment Historical Society and have been told that he enlisted circa Sept 1890 and was at some stage transferred to the 1st Bn and served on the Indian frontier and was awarded the Punjab service medal and served as lance corporal 2833 R liddle

He the married a woman called Eleanor Scott in Elham Kent in 1904. I have a copy of the marriage certificate and his father is listed as Thomas Liddle, a market porter.

They had several children, both in Kent and more when they moved back to Manchester.

He died in Manchester in 1915.

PROBLEMS...

Can find no trace of Thomas Liddle (with a son called Robert) in Manchester
Can find only one robert born in manchester at that time and his father is John Liddle

QUESTIONS...

Was he really an orphan or was he sent to the Industrial school as a punishment (eg for begging or vagrancy)?

Why would a Manchester man move to the other end of the country to join an army regiment in Kent?

Which documents can I get hold of that will give me any information which might help?


If anyone can give me any pointers about where to look next, I would be most grateful.]]> Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:23:47 -0600 5495 http://www.tngforum.us/index.php?showtopic=3832
I'm trying to construct one using Zoho Creator but need some inspiration about what to ask/include etc.]]> Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:42:17 -0500 3832 http://www.tngforum.us/index.php?showtopic=2690
Like right now, under documents, I have put things like: birth records, death, marriage, obits, military records.

Under history: Census forms, newspaper articles, pictures of churchs either built or attended by family.

I have several Census forms I would like to put up as well as the Family home in Finland along with a story about how it was taken over by the Russians in the Winter War (I assume that is a history). Should the military records (registration papers, death notice, etc ) be in history or documents?

How does everyone else sort their papers. I am trying to make it easier for my elderly relatives to look at.

Thanks.

Susan]]> Thu, 02 Aug 2007 23:48:39 -0500 2690 http://www.tngforum.us/index.php?showtopic=1152
What is your opinion of placing these census images from an online source (such as Ancestry) on your website?]]> Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:19:29 -0500 1152 http://www.tngforum.us/index.php?showtopic=4838
Having full and open access to the registers of births, marriages and deaths from 1837 to 1908 will make it easier for genealogists to research the records and ensure they get the copies they require. If copies were put on the internet this would simplify the process.

These records are over a hundred years old and should now be accessible to all with a small fee to cover the cost of copying the originals.

Sign here:
http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/OpenBMDrecords/

]]> Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:14:17 -0500 4838 http://www.tngforum.us/index.php?showtopic=4345
Is anyone aware of something like a 'comparison website' for such sites? It can get rather confusing trying to remember who charges what, for how much, for how long etc!]]> Mon, 02 Feb 2009 11:53:24 -0600 4345